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Approach Tip: Engage with the “Reversal”
November 5th, 2007 under News

Hey guys. Hope you had a killer weekend.

If you get a few hours free, we went to see “American Gangster” last night…really good, entertaining movie. Crowe/Denzel really deliver. For some reason though, it is not “great”, but definitely worth your $11 (that’s an NYC price btw).

Had an interesting conversation the other night that I wanted to share. Is it just me, or do the best inspirations always come when you least expect them?

Anyway, I am a pretty driven guy – and usually find myself out too late working on projects that interest me. I’ve been getting interested again in the arts recently, and this guy is a painter friend of mine, who is about to open a gallery show. He’s a really cool guy, but a bit clueless when it comes to women.

He’s got a cool place to live where he also works, so whenever we meet up we always go to his place so I can see what he’s up to.

As usual, anytime I am hanging with a friend, they always ‘download’ their recent girl dramas. And this time was no different. My friends all get a kick out of my job, and they also know that I LOVE hearing stories from “the field”.

He had recently hit up this bar downtown, and wanted to try out some approaches. He’s not a PUA per se, but he does like to engage women in conversation. Here’s what he told me:

Him: “Stephen, I know you guys used to script these things to a tee…and I understand that and all, but I discovered that the BEST way to open up a convo is to REVERSE their expectations from the get-go”

Me: “Hmmm…I have this image of you approaching them and pretending to be gay and completely disinterested…true? Please say no…”

Him: “No way. Not at all. But take the most common scenario, a guy rolls up and says ‘Can I buy you a drink?’ – right? Isn’t that the most common scenario?”

Me: (ugh, he’s building a ‘yes’ tree here…he’s a great salesman) YES

Him: “So, what if you – INSTEAD – said to her: “Hey girls – listen, I’ve got a little challenge – you up for it? (they always say ‘yes’). If you can guess my favorite drink, I will buy you a drink. In fact, I’ll give you three shots at it”

Me: Hmmmm…that’s interesting…tell me more (aka, YES)

Him: “Well, it immediately puts a fun frame around the interaction, and separates you from the pack. Isn’t that what you’re always saying Stephen? AND, I got three numbers last Friday night using JUST this method.”

He was and IS right. I was so glad he brought this up, because it is so SIMPLE and useful to guys who dislike routines, but who also want some sort of structure to use when beginning the conversation.

It reminded me of a conversation Style and I had years back at Project Hollywood. We were rehashing an old Ross Jeffries routine that I used to use when I was very new. It goes like this:

“Excuse me. Are you confident enough to accept a sincere compliment from a complete stranger?”

I’ve always liked this script, and used it for a long time. I even experienced results with it, unlike most who use RJ’s stuff.

Style and I however conceived of a new way of wording it – by adding the below to the end.

(after she says ‘yes’)

“Hey, so am I! You go first”

What you do is completely reverse the expectation and cause her to have to think on her feet. This obviously separates you from ‘the pack’ while also causing intrigue. She HAS to engage you, as she can’t rely on her own bag of tricks.

So, engage her in conversation by using her expectations FOR you. The only difference it – REVERSE this so that you get the advantage.

Take an obvious source of conversation, and simply reverse it on its head so that you are challenging her. Here are some examples (all said with a smile btw…otherwise you’ll come off as an ass):

“If I give you guys some cash, do you mind bringing drinks to me and my friends throughout the night? We’re really tired and would love to just kick back without running back and forth to the bar”

or

“Nice bag. Could I borrow it for say five minutes? I want to impress someone”

or

(if someone is having a cellphone conversation nearby)

(roll your eyes) “Let’s pretend to be the other person on the line. We’ll take turns. I’ll go first: “aah, but I love you Jim, I think about you always…” (turn it into a soap opera)

Be challenging and engaging. Be DIFFERENT. Use something happening and turn it on its head. Instead of asking a lame question about it – turn it into something USEFUL.

If you’re looking for even more ways to engage women in any/all situations, then you’ve really got to check out my ebook, How To Get A Girlfriend. If you haven’t yet downloaded it, it’s pretty important that you get up to speed soon. Click the link below and get started ASAP.

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Have a good day guys,

Stephen Nash.


Read the Comments

Comment from carmine agnelo [November 7, 2007, 6:16 pm]

i got a question man, is it at all possible fir you to give me some cool phone number closes ? thank you

Comment from Stephen Nash [November 8, 2007, 10:20 am]

Sure thing Carmine…and thanks for posting to the blog…

The BEST way IME is to simply say some variation of the following:

“So, listen, I’ve gotta run back to my friends as we’re off to another party tonight, but I’ve enjoyed our fun conversation. How can we continue this at another time?”

You aren’t directly asking for her number with this, which can be cliche. (I remember Joseph in “Master The Vibe” asking his girl for her “digits”…which I frankly hated!…NEVER do this, lucky for him it worked!)

Instead you are acknowledging that you have a life and that you can’t stay there and chat with her all night. After saying this, she will usually give you her number.

Of course, if she doesn’t - that’s when I’d say:

“Well, lets exchange numbers so we can keep in touch”

Presto. This is the simplest/clearest little method for asking for a phone number.

The Golden Rule is - if she WANTS you to call her (which she should after talking with you - a cool guy - for 10/15 minutes, right?) then she will want to give you her number…so it won’t matter how you ask.

If you have to jump thru hoops to secure her number, she is not likely to call you back even if you do get her correct contact info.

Clear?

SN.

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